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Debate: Take Care or Cole World?

September 7, 2011 · Posted in Music, news, reviews · 103 Comments 

Before I open up the floor here I’d like to weigh in on this debate. I’m anticipating both obviously, but this is one of those “put a gun to your head and choose one” type debates. Everyone’s favorite. Ignore the fact that Cole’s project drops a month before Drake’s so you’ll be anticipating it longer anyway. Lets break this down real quick….

Who had the better singles? 

The lead singles from both of these albums lived up to the hype, to say the least. Cole’s “Work Out” and recently released single “Can’t Get Enough” featuring Trey Songz show promise for his debut album. I’m hoping to see more songs like “Can’t Get Enough” than “Work Out” though. Then you have Drake’s “Headlines” which was a little different than his usual lead single, but none of us were complaining. I think he’s definitely mastered the art of mixing his singing with rapping and he didn’t need a really catchy hook to get our attention. The Trey Songz feature wasn’t prominent enough for me and wouldn’t have minded if Cole just did the chorus himself. I give the edge to Drake on this one considering I still find myself enjoying “Headlines” a bit more.

Does less really mean more?

It’s safe to say “So Far Gone” gave us the same excitement for “Thank Me Later” as J. Cole’s now THREE mixtapes (The Come Up, The Warm Up, Friday Night Lights) has given us for “Cole World: A Sideline Story.” Drake took over last summer with the success of his debut album, and at the same time Cole was building a buzz for his own album with the release of promotional single, “Who Dat.” The beginning of 2011 was very quiet for Drake (to allow Weezy to get his buzz back being out of jail in my opinion) while we were listening to “Friday Night Lights” and an array of leaked tracks from J. Cole. Then “I’m on One” happened. And “Dreams Money Can Buy,” “Marvins Room,” “Trust Issues,” and “Headlines” followed suit. He strategically placed them apart though leaving us anticipating his next move. So, is it quality over quantity? Although Drake more than made up for the music drought, I still would’ve really liked if he followed through on that R&B mixtape he promised. Give the slight edge to J. Cole here.

And finally….

Which album do I think will be better?

I was kind of disappointed when I saw that “In the Morning and “Lights Please” were going to be on Cole’s album simply because they feel ancient at this point. In my opinion that is two brand new songs that we are getting cheated out of. It appears “Marvin’s Room” will make the album due to the success from the unintentional single (peaking at #21 on the Billboard Hot 100.) “Take Care” also has confirmed features by Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, T-Pain, Stevie Wonder and, from a tweet he made early morning on September 6th (“Alllllll the way from memphis tennessee…and he got something special for ya’ll tonight.”), possibly a Justin Timberlake feature. I’m also curious to see if he gets his “idol” Jay-Z on board again after this so called beef. I’ve already gone ahead and claimed that “Take Care” would be album of the year so I’d be a hypocrite to say I’d think J. Cole’s will be better. No potential for a sophomore slump here. J. Cole will impress us, but Drake will blow us away.

Leave comments or hit me up on Twitter with your opinion.

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103 Responses to “Debate: Take Care or Cole World?”

  1. xDitoBoii on September 7th, 2011 7:41 am

    Take Care > Carter 4 > Cole World > Watch The Throne > Rap Game .

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    Avantiel Reply:

    @xDitoBoii, why are you even mentioning Carter 4?…..

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  2. Boss on September 7th, 2011 7:43 am

    I agree ! Drake all the wayyyyy.

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    NINON Reply:

    @Boss, The sad thing is that Drake will be like Wayne, they will outsell any artist, but their music sucks, Cole World will obviously be way better than drakes pop album but will probably not sell much!!

    If u are interested in Hip Hop then Cole World, you should get but
    if u only like what the media tells u then get drakes, and waynes all all of ymcmb

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    aaron Reply:

    real talk.

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  3. Adrian on September 7th, 2011 7:49 am

    It is only J.Cole’s first album. It’s Drake’s sophomore. You can’t really compare the two albums unless they were both debut albums at the time. I give the edge to J.Cole though. You can’t forget he produced the majority of the album himself. It’s a two for one special for J.Cole.

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    RK Reply:

    @Adrian, your right.. i think cole had a big say in his songs but i think thats why the advantage is drake all the way.. Drake has 40 on his side along big time producers for his album.. J Coles songs are amazing and his stroy telling ability is somewhere gone from the rap/hip hop these days.. but that doesnt work for albums anymore.. i love his mixtapes, but you need hype, bangers, and big time hits for an album..thats why its time for him to realize that he should work with big time producers

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    LMH Reply:

    @Adrian,
    Yes, Cole produced majority of his album, but that means nothing when his productions are mediocre. Let’s not hype him up like he is Kanye West (super-producer and rapper).

    Drake has found the perfect chemistry with his team (meaning 40 and Boi-1da, not Young Money) to the point where everything they make sounds authentic. J.Cole has not perfected his sound as of yet. I highly doubt his album will be better than “Thank Me Later” was, nor the way “Take Care” will be.

    Disclaimer 1* I do listen to J.Cole’s music. And I do think he has talent, and he’s a good storyteller. However, until he steps up his wordplay and develops into his own artist, he will always sound like he’s new to the game.

    Disclamer 2* When I say “better”, I don’t mean who will sell more or who will have more radioplay. I’m speaking in terms of who will have a more quality album.

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    Alan Reply:

    @LMH, “Thank Me Later” Was Garbage! I Was REally Hyped Up For That Album & When I Listened To It I Was Highly Disappointed, “So Far Gone” Was A Lot Better, I Use To Be A Drake Fan Back When He Made Music Like “The Calm” “Killers” “Say What’s Real” & “Fear” But Now I Hear His New Music Like “Headlines” & I Can’t Help But Think That He’s Just Becoming Lil Waynes Puppet! J.Cole Is Ganna Kill Tha Game, He Won’t Sell As Much As Drake But That’s Only Because People Don’t Like Real Hip-Hop & Rap, J.Cole Is A True MC, “Cole World: Sideline Story” Will Be Better Than “Take Care” #ColeWorld!

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    RK Reply:

    @Alan, Cole came int the game and in my opinion, if it wasnt for drake, cole would have the game in his pocket. say what you want but Drake is in a league of his own. Not taking anything away from J Cole, his an old school rapper with deep talents, and by the way, J Cole’s word play is better then anyone out there. Only thing missing from Cole is diversity in his style, album. LHM is right about the drake finding the perfect chemistry with his team. J Cole needs these people as well

  4. Frankhood Brotherz on September 7th, 2011 7:52 am

    coleworld. . .no takecare of bitchez!!

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  5. Marlene on September 7th, 2011 7:54 am

    Drake will definitely mind blow us with his album!

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  6. julian on September 7th, 2011 8:04 am

    cole world

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  7. CMILLI on September 7th, 2011 8:08 am

    J cole is the better rapper but Drizzy Drake will have the better album..I’m buying both regardless

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    damiaan Reply:

    @CMILLI, best way to say it yoo i like both of em for different reasons

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  8. Pablo on September 7th, 2011 8:15 am

    Well I’ve been jamming to Lost Ones by J.Cole a lottt lately, which I think is an amazing song. I’m anticipating both albums very much and I did enjoy Headlines a bit more than Work Out and I enjoyed Trust Issues a bit more than Can’t get enough. But if Cole’s album is more like Lost ones and Headlines, than I’m gonna have to give him the edge on who will have the better album.

    But I’m a big fan of both so I can’t wait for both to drop.

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  9. Pablo on September 7th, 2011 8:16 am

    More like “Lost Ones” than “Work out” I mean * Correction

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  10. UnOrthodox on September 7th, 2011 8:25 am

    I love both artists, although I do like J. Cole better so this might seem a bit biased.

    I’m anticipating Cole’s WAY more. But the reason is this is because, In all honesty “Thank Me Later” disappointed me, and I didn’t think it was such a good follow up to “So Far Gone” which I thought was amazing. And I anticipated it so much cuz he had two GREAT mixtapes prior to “So Far Gone”. He had amazing feature verses whenever he did one so I thought it is going to be a great album.” But to me, it was mehh, few songs stood out to me. I felt like he held alot back. “9am in Dallas” topped most of the songs on “Thank Me Later” Buzz does not equal quality or good. If he puts out a mainstream song, but I like it, then by all means. While Cole has 3 equally good mixtapes under his belt. So I think it’s Drake all over where I expect a great quality album, while Drake disappointed me with “Thank Me Later” and broke his streak. Still anticipating it, just not as much as Cole’s. My 2 cents anyways

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  11. JayElec on September 7th, 2011 8:27 am

    Really killer?? comparing a sophmore album with a freshman album??lol anyways i prefer Cole World. Drakes singing is not my thang plus to me hes More of a pop artist. I mean we should compare thank me later with cole world when it comes out better??lol

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  12. Edd G on September 7th, 2011 8:28 am

    Cole World everyday all day… drake is good … but J Cole is Fire…I think the most significant new rappers are Kendrick Lamar, Big K.R.I.T, and J cole

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  13. domican on September 7th, 2011 8:34 am

    take care will take album of the year. i mean i quote “stevie wonder liked it”. he has production from 40, boi-1da, t-minus. thats his crew right there. hes getting ppl like DJ KHALIL, DJ PREMIER, the XX, 9th wonder, and the neptunes.. he got THE WEEKND on the album, stevie wonder, rick ross, lil wayne. are the only collabos. expect about 24 songs on the birthday edition of the album. actually i think t pain will not be on the album, and Justin timberlake will probably be on the album. drake already said headlines was definitively not the best song on TAKE CARE. and j cole is a good rapper but sometimes i feel as thought people overate him and call him the next pac and nas which he really isn’t. his wordplay and the words he chooses are elementary type, i mean he went to college so i would expect alot more word play but he hasn’t put out that lyricism as the likes of “phonte” and others. his production is alright, i give him credit for producing the majority of his music but it would matter most if you were great at it, i feel as though his production is too simple and find it quite boring. he needs to step it up. but cole world will be like FNL but with a bit more clear story to cole and who he is. after his first album, cole needs to find his lane, i feel as though hes just another new school rapper, he needs to find his sound and perfect it. and he needs to put away his ego in his music because its not favorable.

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    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, Respect your thoughts bro. But i mean if drakes album sounds anything like thank me later personally shits going to be pretty wack. my opinion. i feel like though j cole might not sell as much as drake might of his freshman album j coles album can be better..comparing these two right now is not even fair cause j cole barely putting out his first album out and i think will b better than thank me later just cause i feel like thank me later was poppish. though i liked a few songs but got tired of them quick. CarterIV got so much hype and wasnt that good of an album. They hype there albums so much to make it seem a classic in the making lol But i feel u only cole finding his lane i feel like he hasnt found it yet, as oppose choosing the underground or “mainstream” like drake. As far as jcole not putting out the lyricism i disagree with you. Better Rapper and lyricist ill take cole anyday over drake i mean drakes past features in songs been sounding the same to me..dont u think?

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    domican Reply:

    nah drake even said he felt as tho he was holding back in his debut album to make it sound “1st album ish”. he said he felt disconnected and he himself wasn’t really vibing with the music. but personally i think thank me later was solid album, he did something different he rapped about how the fame was doing him bad and how he was numb to it and how crazy it was, it got great reviews though. and TAKE CARE will be different, hes more confident now, he stated its not thank me later but its more on the lines of comeback season and so far gone. he’s gonna rap about something different and hes acually gonna tell a story. i feel like don;t judge the album off of headlines but more on the lines of “dreams money can buy, and paris morton music. and i agree thank me later was poppish with some tracks. and take care isn’t really hyped as much as you think, but alot of people know about it. just like how alot of people knows about coles. i was listening to cole since 08, he’s about to drop his 1st album, he’s what, about like 70 % done with his second album. but he needs to find his lane and drop complete music, like master the style you rap. drake is the better songwriter, singer and he can rap, possibly go toe to toe with cole if he wanted to. j cole can produce, RAP like its still the 90s which i like from him, but he needs to have more word play. you’ve listened to phonte right? cole needs to tap into his college vocab camp and spit like that, not spit like his ego or dumb it down. hes smart and i just want him to succeed in terms of producing but he needs to be coached or mentored about sounds and have more music that’s sonically appealing just like how drake is touring with his vocal coach. but he will get there. he needs to spend more time on music though.

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    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, yea I feel wat ur saying. But I guess we gonna have to wait. Artist can say what they want but all that matters is when album drops. Personally I liked Drake in comeback season and if he has songs like that on take care it’ll be way better than thank me later. I mean my girls a huge Drake fan but forgot about thank me later already and not alot of plp bump it anymore what does that say about that album? Coles going to do good he can rap and I personally think he doesn’t belong in Drake’s world..mainstream music is wack now same topics every song. J Cole don’t talk about the same things..girls cars money taking subliminals at upincoming artist to sound “hard” I don’t think that’s deep even girl problems isn’t deep what artist don’t talk about that now a days? U hear artist making songs like lost ones? I certainly don’t. Kendrick coleee the truth in my eyes. Hope comeback season comes back tho. I certainly would enjoy that!

    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, and disagree with u in saying Drake is abetted song writer maybe at making poppish records and music for the radio yea but as far as writing and spitting naa bro. And no offense if u thought thank me later was solid then that’s sad lol I mean ur giving me excuses about Drake stating he wasn’t feeling this or that but as an artist your suppose to want to drop the best album u can especially your first album. When plp look back at your career they see your first album the chronic ilmatic reasonable doubt Marshall Mather’s LP ect. Why would an artist not want to try n make it a classic for his first album? I think he should have took his time and make it good instead of rushing it. That k me later will be forgotten in less than 5years

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    no i acually quoted this. and i mean coles ego lead him to believe he can acually pull it off, producing his own album but its not working. how many failed singles has it been? because he can’t write a complete SONG. a hook, a bridge, vell complete thought out verse, a concluding bar. don’t bring drake’s radio reputation into this, hes untouchable on the radio. just because hes on the radio doesn’t mean he is less than j cole. actually i can tell you many ways how drake is better than j cole. there’s a difference between rapping, and writing a song. drake is deffinilty the better song writer with multiple song writing awards, he’s written for many famous artists, he has written with Stevie wonder. thank later has gotten an overal 8.5/10 in cumulative reviews. its not a classic, its not timeless but solid. drake’s radio play isnt poppish, popish is WIZ, BRUNO MARS, B.O.B. best i ever had wasn’t poppish, fancy wasnt poppish at all, just because it got alot of play it is not called poppish. people just simply love it. and if j cole had dropped a “fancy” then all cole fans would ride him like there no tommorow. all the albums you just mentioned were released before the new millennium. and for your info drake gets more praise than cole, even from “legends”, jay z promoted drake more than any of his label mates. cole has 2 mixtape songs on his album, 2 mediocre singles that are rather bad, and 2 records that has already leaked. cole stans talk about “lost ones” like its the new “ny state of mind” and act like nobody have ever touched ont hat subject matter. but many have, many have already talked about living poor and blowing up and college life different sub topics of girls. FNL dropped people were on that for like 2 weeks then where did the hype go? people didn’t talk about it anymore but people still talk about so far gone, because it was original, great, and sold and sounded like an album. thank me later was controlled by the label, he was rushed, he couldn’t stop or change the date because it was already confirmed and other things out of his control. i could rant all day about this because its mostly true.

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    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, idk what stans your talking about lol I never said he was the next Nas. Seems to me like your taking it personal trying.to defend Drake. To me it is poppish I don’t listen to the radio fnl is still on my playlist so far gone ehh not really though I liked it alot. I’m all about underground so to me Drake makes poppish songs. And u said it urself Cole has failed with singles and its true and that’s why I said he hasn’t found his lane and that drakes world wasn’t it. True hiphop heads stay on that fnl so don’t try n tell me plp don’t.listen to that anymore lol and the reviews your talking about are from what rolling stones?lol wtf they knw about “hiphop” lol I mean if u call the shit that’s on the radio good then I mean there’s no point in debating with u lol. Wnat to hear a classic EP then section 80 is it. Don’t try n shove reviews n BS like that cause that doesn’t mean shit. Carter IV got a 4out5 lol I mean its sad how plp think now a days. Hiphop ain’t dead it lives in the underground. J Cole belongs in the underground like I previously stated he doesn’t belong in that world. He’s too lyrical to be in the radio drops too much knowledge for the average person to comprehend. That’s why cats like Drake belong there. Good writers making catchy”hooks” then raps about the money fame bottles girls as usual. Hiphop is more that. That doesn’t feed my brain. I want some real food for thought

    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, lol @ best I ever had wasn’t poppish lol that shit was some true hiphop shit lol cmon man I’m starting to wonder what your taste in music is if u think fancy and best I ever had were hiphop songs lol

    domican Reply:

    okay your an underground fan, im a fan of music. im stating things that are true. you cant always bring up the “true hip hop” but they are confused. and you speak like your defending Cole, you said”drakes world” like whats that? lol. and no carter iv was horrible and got horrible reviews, idk where you got 4/5 from. and rolling stone is MUSIC. hip hop is not its own music, which i thinka ll underground fans try to drill int heir head. all undergound fans hate radio so your biased as of right now. ive heard section and it is way farther beyond terms of anything j cole can rap. RAP AND HIP HOP aren’t the same. and j cole wants to be mainstream, why be underground and be washed up. nas was balanced, eminem was balanced. drake doesnt rap about poppin bottles like you exxagerated, he talks about girls but its relatable to everybody. kendrick lamar talked about girls, and money but in the sense of it being politically misused. alot of what kendrick lamar says goes over alot of people’s heads. FNL isnt as nearly talked about as SO FAR GONE. and dont put lil wayne and drake in the same sentence, cater iv was just horrible. that album could single handedly kill hip hop.

    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, I’m not defending anyone lol and undergound heads hate radio cause its full of Techno popping bottles girls party brainwashing.lil kids into thinking that’s what hiphop/rap is and it isn’t. Sucks that the world thinks lil Wayne is an “icon” or the face of hiphop that goes to show how much of a joke mainstream is. I liked drakes old shit. Not much of it now. I can predict what he’s goin talk about. I mean same for jcole but I mean u hear different shit from him here n there. I haven’t heard anyone talk about so far gone in awhile lol so again idk where u get all this from..I mean if u could tell me what’s so “emotional” or “deep” bout the radio then I would 100% agree with you. But its the same shit all the time. I mean what’s there to like about the radio? If there’s way more talent in the underground. J Cole wants to go mainstream and if ends up one day rapping about the same girls bottles fame then he wont catch my eyes anymore. That’s jus my taste I music and why I see it like that. Are awards n reviews suppose to impress me or something?lol Carter Iv sold amillion coolies that goes to show how the mainstream works..but anyways it was cool debating.lol no hard feelings bro

    MosDef Reply:

    @domican, btw rolling stones is music??lol u made no sense there buddy. Hiphop is its own music its not rock its not pop its not rnb its hiphop! Rolling stones knws about hiphop? Doubt that lol there a joke in there reviews

  14. MosDef on September 7th, 2011 8:34 am

    “It’s flowin’ out through my arteries, who hard as me? You JV, I’m varsity
    No field trip, ain’t hard to see, this real shit, you R&B
    Seen a movie wit’ yo’ bitch in it, and listen it, was starrin’ me
    (Woo!) That boy Simba crazy”!!- Cole world!

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  15. Ryan Louis on September 7th, 2011 8:53 am

    drake is consistent, but that gets real boring and repetitive after a while. with j. cole every song he puts out is a brand new sound and a brand new story he’s trying to tell. you can’t judge The Side Line Story off of Work Out and Can’t Get Enough just because that is not his m.o. Lost Ones and God’s Gift are a better source of comparison towards the rest of the album. Drake’s gon’ have to try and Take Care cuz he’s living in a Cole World !!

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  16. karim on September 7th, 2011 9:13 am

    I can’t read the comments anymore.
    Drake and J.Cole are different styles.
    Drake is doing his 2nd album ” Take Care”
    Before that, he dropped ” So Far Gone”
    That hyped up all the fans and people surrounding Drake, if its gonna be a good album
    So Far Gone, come on, for a MIXTAPE, he had Lil Wayne, Bun B, Trey Songz, Young Jeezy, that was crazy, then he dropped Forever which had wayne, kanye and EMINEM. now let’s not forget, that song was crazy, verse of the year people we’re saying about that entire song, Drake took the limits beyond it.
    J.Cole how many mixtapes has he done? 3? and now he’s dropping album, which he kept changing the dates!
    Fans got pissed, Drake didn’t change it, he dropped it!
    Drake is really famous
    J.Cole isn’t on that level

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    UnOrthodox Reply:

    @karim,
    Yea but the reason he had so much hype was cuz of Wayne’s Co-Sign, who at the time was REALLY on top of the game. Whether people liked him or not, He was still really relevant. And like you said, he had crazy features. But Cole carried most of his mixtapes on his own.

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    John Reply:

    @UnOrthodox, True that, if j cole did a lot more features with jay z in his mixtapes or whatever he would probably be more famous than he is right now

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    shabang Reply:

    @John, J cole doesn’t really collab with other artist he likes too keep shit to himself. Im sure since he sighned to the ROC he could just ask Rihanna for a hook and he has a big hit. But he keeps shit real. That’s why his album is gonna be a classic!

  17. Thomas J. on September 7th, 2011 9:28 am

    This article could not be more accurate. Although the incomprehensible comparison between debut and sophomore albums seems crazy, if both rappers are lyrically and uniquely offer something different to the game at this point, it wouldn’t matter what album number it is. If you can rap you can rap…period.

    It is CLEAR that Drake can rap, his mind is so creative and it really shows throughout his music. At the same token, J. Cole is sick and a lot of what he says is relate able like the deeply insightful “Lost Ones.” It depends on your preference of rapper. Drake; the pop beat killer (“What’s Your Name,” “Headlines,”), who has the ability to murder tracks with the best of today’s rappers, (“She Will”) while sometimes even singing the hook (“I’m On One”)…..or J. Cole the lyrically brilliant monster who’s creativity with song structure (“God’s Gift) is untouchable. Crooners like (“Work Out”) who offered some variety but failed to generate much buzz, are saved by collaborative tracks like [Can’t Get Enough].

    I believe their on two different levels, J. Cole prolonged his debut for so long, Drake is a step and a half ahead…

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  18. kbrian on September 7th, 2011 9:31 am

    Drake’s whole demeanor, swag, and attitude has changed thus far since his earlier mixtapes (the ones featuring Fear, The Winner, Closer to my Dreams, the presentation, etc). if you noticed, his voice has changed, and has become much more confident, maybe even arrogant, and nonetheless, much more commercially appealing. If you don’t believe me, listen to “The Winner” and then listen to “Headlines”. The way and how he says his words are a lot different (his ego has grown, but his fame and success gives him a good excuse. i admit, he is amazing and deserving). Thank Me Later was a damn near classic to me. I literally enjoyed every track on that album. What you have to realize is, is that this a former actor, trying to strive in the rapping world. I find that having the ability to rap about various topics, without being from a project, trap, or hood, is remarkable. Jay-z will always have references to his drug king pin days, while Lil’ Wayne and The Game can talk about their blood gang, and Kanye West can rap about his near life-death experiences as well as the poverty and violence in chicago. Drake, however, is a Degrassi actor who was portrayed as someone in a wheel chair. He is Jewish, as well as someone who has been raised in Canada. With that being said, there’s not a lot to brag about- and yet, he has surprisingly survived the hip-hop critics, and shown great success in the MC world. it is a classic story about how it doesn’t matter where you are from, but more importantly, where you’re going.

    Now, J. Cole on the other hand, is able to rap about his past in North Carolina’s hood (fayettenam), and he uses this to it’s fullest (not in a bad way). He makes some of us aware of the things that go on in everyday life of those living in poverty, living in hostile gang territory, etc. This targets those who are living the reality of these streets, which creates a big fan base. At what first seems to be the start of a one dimensional rapper, he then starts to make songs about things that can be relevant to anyone. These being songs such as Lost Ones, giving both sides to a story of a pregnant woman, and the father; another one would be farewell (off of FNL), a strong and powerful track about the reminiscent past that everyone every so often ponders about from time to time; and In The Morning, a sensual lust of a very sexually active generation. This second dimension that J. Cole posses does wonders, for it does not only limit him to spit about that trap shit, but expands his creativity as well as more material for more people to relate to, thus giving a larger fan base. The only thing that J. Cole lacks would be radio hits. Work Out and Can’t Get Enough aren’t really songs that people today want to hear on the radio. Those two songs would be in the same queue pool as pittbull, kesha, lil wayne, big sean, katy perry, bruno mars, etc. I just don’t see it working out. I’m sorry for those lyrical fans out there, but lyricism just isn’t cool anymore. Which makes me believe that j. cole will never be as big as the artist in the YMCMB roster (radio/$$ wise).

    Take Care Vs. The Sideline Story

    What it comes down to is this:
    Punchlines vs Lyricism (although both artist may contain both, it is obvious to say that Drake is a punchline maniac [not in a bad way- i always wonder how he comes up with the stuff that he does] and that J. Cole is an exceptional lyricist who contains a lot of narrative power and ultimately a well established flow).

    poppin’ bottles, female problems vs money, and the shit you hear on the news

    or a better way to put it..

    Jay-z vs. Nas
    With Drake being Jay-z (the better entertainer/artist) and J. Cole being nas (the better poet, lyricist, and rapper).

    For my 2 cents, #coleworld. #dreamville. #rocnation. #lyricsarelife.

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    Thomas J. Reply:

    @kbrian, I agree with Drake & J. Cole being the modern day Hov & Nas. And it’s apparent who would be who..you said it perfectly. I thought I was the only who who thought like that, clearly there are more sane people in the world.

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    MosDef Reply:

    @kbrian, damnn no ones said it better! Sucks that hiphop is like that now but its true! Lyricist aren’t cool anymore j Cole n kendrcik need to put out there collaboration album! Now that will be a true hiphop head collaboration!

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    kbrian Reply:

    @kbrian,

    I’m sorry to have written so much, but i forgot to mention this that everyone should take notice in.

    When you look at Drake’s previous track history, try and see how many features he has on his mixtapes, especially the ones with Weezy. If you don’t, then i will tell you this straight up. There is A LOT of Weezy features. During this time, Weezy was considered one of the greatest rappers alive (with just coming out with the Carter 3, correct me if i’m wrong). This helps Drake exponentially, to have the majority of Lil’ Waynes fan base behind you.

    Then you look at J. Cole’s previous mixtape history and check how many features. There’s not a lot, there’s practically none. And if there is, there’s not really a power house rapper to give him that type of attraction that Weezy did for Drake.

    I don’t want to say that Drakes whole success is due to the crutch of wayne, but i have to say it gave him quite the shortcut. J. Cole has said it himself in interviews that he wants the minimal amount of features, because he wants to present him to us (and that’s how it should be.)

    If i buy a J. Cole CD, i want to listen to J. Cole, not to have a different rapper on a verse on every track. It’s like buying Tha Carter IV and listening to outro for the first time, where the hell is Wayne on it?

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  19. TheMikeDaSilva on September 7th, 2011 9:36 am

    @kbrian, Very well put.

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  20. Steven on September 7th, 2011 9:58 am

    I think Drake will have the better album. He’s done finding himself artistically, and he’s mastering his art form. Cole is a good artist, but doesn’t have enough lyricism to be compared to the new Nas like people are giving him credit for, and isn’t really bringing anything all that new to the table. If you think Cole is anywhere near Nas’s level by the way, you need to go re-listen to some Nas albums.

    The fact that Cole also produced the majority of his own songs, kind of takes him down a level for me. As a producer I can appreciate an artist who can do both, but his style for beats is always the same, and lacks a lot of originality and versatility that an album needs. If you have Premo making one track, and then Timbaland on another track, obviously the two are going to sound pretty damn different because of their different styles of producing. If you have Cole making all the tracks, in my opinion the album is going to be very bland and sounding like every other Cole song up to now, with the same style hook he has been using lately.

    I’m a huge fan of both, but I think comparing the two isn’t fair, because Cole still needs a lot more time to grow and mature as an artist. So for now, Drake takes it for this round of albums.

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    HHG Reply:

    @Steven,

    People?….
    no, the person that said J.Cole was the new Nas, was DRAKE.
    Then J. Cole was like na, I’m not at the level yet, I hope to be someday….
    Then Drakes Arrogant ass said he was Jay-Z…. If that’s the case I got one word…..

    ETHER.

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  21. RaaJa on September 7th, 2011 10:01 am

    Take Care Will Be Best of Best…

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  22. Tuvshuu on September 7th, 2011 10:13 am

    Cole World

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  23. @tshiamofs on September 7th, 2011 10:23 am

    I think The Warm Up is more timeless than both Thank Me later and So Far Gone. I think J Cole is not trying shine off other people’s shine via Top Producers and All Star features. He is trying to have an Álbum thats about him. With that being said i like both them niggers, they really represent the youth thats getting money authentically..no drug dealing bullshit, we off that! I ma try cop them both, but Cole i am mos def copping

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  24. J on September 7th, 2011 10:53 am

    All I gotta say is..
    To wait till the damn albums drop and then we can do the judging and comparison between what one is the greater one?
    Cuz if it comes down to who sells more then without a doubt Drake is gonna sell up the ass!!! But I say just wait and see which one OS the better

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  25. J on September 7th, 2011 10:54 am

    Sorry
    * to see which one is the better album..

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  26. Drew on September 7th, 2011 10:56 am

    This is all i have to say and don’t comment my *ish unless you got some real evidence to back that shit up..

    Cole Albums-0
    Drake Albums-1

    yeah drizzy is one up on Cole as far as albums go at the moment and blah blah blah but Thank Me Later felt like he was experimenting a lot and if you look at what he was doing while making the album you would see he never really had good quality time to work on the album like he’s doing with take care. its like drizzy was tryin too hard to get that Grammy he still doesn’t have and lost where he was going with it. he said he signed with young money to make the music “he wants” and not have the headaches of labels giving him a direction for an album but look at what ended up happening..Too much pop. in my opinion.
    he’s definitely progressed with his music but still has some searching to do.

    then there’s Cole, has no album, a few mixtapes, 2 singles, album getting pushed back, shit to be honest i’m intrigued to hear what the album will be like.
    i honestly cant say too much on Cole cause he hasn’t put out an album yet and everyone on here is debating Drake’s album to Cole’s mixtapes and the lyricism and punchlines of them 2 in my OPINION. Now if this was a Mixtape debate between the 2 then that’s a different story. Quez shoulda put this debate out a week after Cole World then this would be a good refute between the two..

    if everyone does this then the world would be a better place towards music.
    -DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
    -YOU CANT PLEASE EVERYONE.
    -DONT SPEAK FOR SHIT YOU’RE EARS HAVEN’T HEARD.

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  27. Drew on September 7th, 2011 11:18 am

    @kbrian,
    Excellent Points bro..
    i been saying this for years; “the game has changed”
    there isn’t truth to it anymore. its a fictional story to me now.

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  28. Dfinity on September 7th, 2011 11:49 am

    I don’t understand why people are always trying to compare artists in this genre. Hip-Hop is the only style of music that the fans feel the need to pick ‘em all apart like this. THEY ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ARTISTS. They both make shit that i like. J. Cole’s mixtapes are flames, and Drake’s been doing his thing for a minute now. Dont hate, Appreciate.

    And I don’t understand how we are suppose to judge on two albums that aren’t even out yet? Let’s have this conversation in November, when both albums have droped, and they’re fully digested.

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  29. pack on September 7th, 2011 12:39 pm

    well.. it all depends on how you look at it. if you looking straight for rap.. then go for j.cole. the misconception people make.. is that drake is a rapper. he is an entertainer (i would say artist..but he hasnt reached that yet). the whole young money team are entertainers.. wayne especially. by that i mean.. they will make whatever they think people will buy. that is not limited to rap..that is not limited to hip-hop. drake lost alot of respect from me a long time ago when he went the singing route. i was a fan of drake because of his rapping. i understand singing a little bit here and there.. but not when you start making whole r&b songs. he slowly became ‘ja rule 2.0′ to me. at this point.. i dont wanna hear songs from drake unless he is on a feature..or the song is three minutes or less. that is when he shines. in all honesty.. that last drake album was for women. i need to drake to get back to the uptempo..clever lyric kid he was. with all that said.. j.cole’s album will mean more than drake’s. the man produces his own beats..understands the use of the soul/singing sample..and not to mention he destroys those beats. j.cole raps about real life. the ‘normal nigga’. im looking forward to his album alot more than drake’s because i know what drake has to offer. im not checking for a drake album. im looking for cole world. the debut album from the future of hip-hop.

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  30. young angel on September 7th, 2011 1:05 pm

    i think drake has an advantage. because he has the best production team period(40, boi1da,t-minus,oliver) plus he can sing, he doesnt realy need alot of features. on top of that he has weezy (im not saying he is the best), who will have more then one feature on drakes album. unlike jcole who struggled to get one verse from jayz. how can jayz be featured once on this album?. if jcole producers the majority of the album, then it wont be better then drakes album. jcole should be very picky on his features.

    drake is way more versatile then jcole.im sorry to say this but ymcmb in-terms of marketing their artists they are way more better then roc-nation

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  31. Muggsy on September 7th, 2011 1:10 pm

    Cole World will be better. Drake, already early in his career, has become too mainstream. I expect more singing tracks than TML had. Also, Cole, with the help of Hov, knows he can’t go nothing but hard on his 1st album. Debut albums can make or break artists and Cole’s fully aware of this. I expect Simba to kill. NEITHER WILL BE BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR THOUGH.

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  32. Muggsy on September 7th, 2011 1:12 pm

    Cole World will be better. Drake, already early in his career, has become too mainstream. I expect more singing tracks than TML had. I expect Simba to kill. NEITHER WILL BE BEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR THOUGH.

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  33. HHG on September 7th, 2011 1:13 pm

    J. Cole takes this, as far as lyricism goes, Drake isn’t anywhere near Cole’s caliber… what the question should be is J.Cole – Cole World: The Sideline Story or Big K.R.I.T. – Live from the Underground…. both dropping 9/27….. definitely buying both, but gun to my head, I guess I be dead. lol

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  34. Muggsy on September 7th, 2011 1:13 pm

    Section.80 is better than all.

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  35. cuza on September 7th, 2011 1:15 pm

    J.cole is so underrated pple wud rather hear dat yung money bullcrap on radio..yo niggas need to search 4 Cole mixtapes,come up,warm up n fnl or songs lyk Roll call deep shit..i mean it sucks pple cant relate on cole songs smh..instead listen to waynes crappy muzik n stupid punchlines..Cole world no Condom!!

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  36. iHate on September 7th, 2011 1:18 pm

    why don’t we have both?

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    nyangoya Reply:

    @iHate, Lil Wayne n Drake: “My songs get me rich and let me fuck
    groupies.”
    J Cole: “My songs motivate kids to beat their cancer.”
    They shouldn’t even be in the same genre.

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  37. anthony on September 7th, 2011 1:59 pm

    drake take care

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  38. Faisalalkheriji on September 7th, 2011 2:06 pm

    Drake is more of a pop artist, hes not so good at rapping but his voice is great.
    JCOOLE on the other hand is the shiiittt ! althought this is his first album but im pretty sure its gonna be better than drakes no doubts ! COLE WORLDDD !!

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  39. Michael on September 7th, 2011 3:29 pm

    Y.M.C.M.B. = Y’all Mad Cole Much Better

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  40. Jorge Oliveira on September 7th, 2011 4:06 pm

    J.cole is smart drizzy is rnb shit but J.cole is smarter

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  41. phonox on September 7th, 2011 4:25 pm

    Drake’s Take Care will definitely be the album of the year trust issues, marvins rooms, dreams money can buy, headlines weren’t classics but were extremely original and very good .The new wave of Drake style came from him finding his lane on his seconds album. Let’s not gives excuses for his first album though it was a solid album but nowhere near the level it should have been for an artist like Drake debut album. Don’t bring up the thing where Drake felt the album was rushed then complain when J.Cole delays his album. Let’s not forget that before TML came Drake was saying that he worked hard in it, was proud of his work, and fans are going to be like it alot. Meanwhile Cole’s work was pretty blend and dumbed down but Can’t get Enough is a good single and for an artist like Cole i feel in a commercial output that’s best he’s going to be able to get.

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    phonox Reply:

    @phonox, * Meanwhile Cole’s “Work Out”

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  42. what eva dude on September 7th, 2011 4:37 pm

    drakes verse on ‘in the morning’ says it all Take would be a better lyrical album but both wud aim to please the gals more which wil suck

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  43. Raymond on September 7th, 2011 4:38 pm

    Take Care

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  44. Jon on September 7th, 2011 5:18 pm

    Agreed

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  45. George on September 7th, 2011 5:26 pm

    Cole World.. make way for the Chosen one!

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  46. HoodRiddance on September 7th, 2011 5:31 pm

    If Drake goes in on multiple tracks he will get the edge but I see Cole World staying more hip hop.. as long as no other track sounds like work out

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  47. carter IV consumer :P on September 7th, 2011 5:33 pm

    Take Care bitches :D :D :D

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  48. Dominique on September 7th, 2011 5:38 pm

    Cole world. Hip hop needed a j cole.

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  49. JChatMakinMoves on September 7th, 2011 5:53 pm

    good arguement. look at take care features. look at cole features he prolly have a less chance of gettin jay on cole world then drake gettin him.. i agree light please shouldnt b on there kuzz its super old but jay prolly made him put it on there kuzz that was the song that made jay-z sign cole i feel..drake still got a buzz and cole still workin.. because everybody made drake the main factor like he the one to run the rap game he get the torch.. so its like even if cole did have a huge buzz it wouldnt matter because they still got eyes for drake… i told myself wen i heard warm up when this nigga album dropp im buyyin it cole never had super hard beats. but his lyrics never bored me and still dont. he even said who dat was a song he shoulda pushed out there. compare who dat to best i ever had. i would choice best i ever had. dats why cole but out single like work out and the one wit trey…im not shootin high for j.cole album to go platinum but if it does then i happy cole world shxt. but i think it will do gold. its like lasers i dont think nobody woulda thought lupe album would do platinum and i aint down playin lu kuzzz i fuxks wit him but he just wasnt poppin. but eventually lasers did some numbers. so we just gotta wait and see
    FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER JCHATSUCKERFREE #INSTANTFOLLOW BAKK

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  50. Towaway on September 7th, 2011 6:49 pm

    Take Care> Watch the Throne> Cole World> Dog Poop> LIl B’s next song> Carter IV

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  51. Martin Carniglia on September 7th, 2011 6:51 pm

    Drake>>>>>>J. Cole
    As someone stated above
    Take Care > Carter 4 > Cole World > Watch The Throne > Rap Game .
    Tho I’d add Game’s album between C4 and Cole World.

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    HHG Reply:

    @Martin Carniglia,

    Section 80 > All Albums This Year.

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    George Reply:

    @HHG, Agreed.. Kendrick Lamar!

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  52. matty boi on September 7th, 2011 7:06 pm

    ummmm no comment i find drake trash and take care already does’nt deserve album of the year( becuase the singles were average nothing special as usual from a mainstream artist) i find tech n9nes album kendricks album or watch the throne to be album of the year (i guess i did have a comment)

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  53. jimboRU on September 7th, 2011 8:59 pm

    COLE WORLD allll day man. J. Cole is just too real for any artist out there today. Two different styles of rap but personally I liked Drake a lot better when he was actually going hard on tracks instead of this singing nonsense. He conformed in a way that greats such as eminem, nas, and jay-z have not. Cole is as real as they come and he produces all of his music. He doesn’t need a producer like 40 or Boi-1da when he produces fire on his own. COLE WORLD

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  54. Felipe on September 7th, 2011 10:36 pm

    I was very upset also when I saw ‘lights please’ & ‘in the morning’ he could of used 2 other songs and like he said it himself in an interview, “I have so much material” so that gets you kinda mad when you connect A & B but in the end you’re still stuck with A. But I’m still Cole World all the way!

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  55. Shane on September 7th, 2011 10:50 pm

    J. Cole does not produce “fire” he produces mediocre beats and has decent lyrics. Drake on the other hand is a person who has mastered his art of lyrics, punchlines, etc. 40 and Boi-1da are amazing producers that are far better than J. Cole.

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    Wack Reply:

    @Shane, lmao@ mastered his art and punchlines? like punchlines i something to be proud of? shit is whats killing hiphop! and what art you talking about? he should master his storytelling more instead of worrying about lil kindergarden punchlines lol produces has storytelling can throw “punchlines” is deep thats a complete artist though his production aint at Ye’s level with time there will be.

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  56. Spiiita on September 8th, 2011 12:49 am

    whoever says drake is better than j.cole is stupid… drake is great… but cole is amazing… J.cole “the warm up” and “friday night lights” were better than “thank me later” and cole didnt get help from the big names that drake did… cole has done everything himself, while drake has co-signed his way to star status… dont get me wrong, ima huge drake fan… i just dont think hes on cole’s level… Cole World : The Sideline Story… 9/27/11…

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    J Ross Reply:

    @Spiiita,

    I AGRREEE !

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  57. domican on September 8th, 2011 1:02 am

    i just fel like people are so stupid. the warm up and fnl are shit compared to so far gone and thank me later actually. i agree with SHANE fully.

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  58. cole world ovoxo on September 8th, 2011 1:05 am

    why cant cole world an ovoxo get along?

    Cole World : The Sideline Story 9/27/11

    Take Care 10/24/11

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  59. Spiiita on September 8th, 2011 1:13 am

    “so far gone” is an amazing mixtape. only it can compete with “friday night lights” and “the warm up”. but “thank me later disappointed many people… and many of the people that think drake is better are either people that listen to bullsh*t radio music or are under the age of 15…

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  60. Ace on September 8th, 2011 1:28 am

    Whoever said Carter 4 > Cole World > WTT doesnt kno what he’s talkn about…Ion’t even wanna know what your iPod sounds like. Carter 4 sucks sweaty king kong balls, should NEVER be compared to WTT which was not what we expected, but still a great album. Now I’m a big Drake fan, but I’m also a Cole fan and J. Cole has been da most consistent rapper of the new school. Fame didn’t affect the quality of his music at all, unlike Drake who was a little shaky for some time until recently. He got crazy punchlines and spits real shit, not dat wayne n his whack ass rhymes shit. So I can already [readict Cole world will b > to take care.

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  61. suspension on September 8th, 2011 1:40 am

    #THECROWNAINTSAFE
    enough said.

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    markus Reply:

    @suspension, Los!!!!…

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  62. @KXero on September 8th, 2011 2:38 am

    I’m going to buy both the albums, I couldn’t compare both of them if I wanted to because they are different kind of artists with different focuses.

    Drake aims at making songs people will enjoy and vibe to, no matter how exciting or dull the lyrics maybe.

    J.Cole aims to make songs that are lyrically rich, even if they aren’t all that entertaining.

    I like them both and i’m personally more of an OVOXO Drizzy Drake fan, but i’m still for Coleworld as well, and i’ll purchase both like a #truefan

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  63. Yago on September 8th, 2011 4:28 am

    Drake said it himself.. Cole’s his favorite rapper. J. Cole is a lyrical fiend, while Drake is more of the pop/mainstream genius. Take Care probably will go platinum first week, cause of the buzz. Cole world, probably will barely go gold.
    I’m Cole World all day, but the truth is lyricism is gone. Sad to say, but I don’t think it’ll come back fast enough for us lyricists lovers to enjoy on the radio.

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    pack Reply:

    @Yago,

    if you’re a lyricist lover.. why are you listening to the radio anyway. we learned a LONG time ago that the radio wasnt the place for our ears.

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    Yago Reply:

    @pack,
    i know. but i just wish that lyricists would get airtime. but no.
    i wanna hear some cole when im riding in a car or some shit. that would make me happy as fuck. don’t tell me you don’t wanna hear your favorite lyricist playin.

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  64. Delvee on September 8th, 2011 5:52 pm

    Drake album going to crazy! But Cole World going to be history like college dropout and kanye!

    COLE WORLD

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  65. B.J on September 8th, 2011 10:17 pm

    Drakes album is gunna impress us. J cole’s album will blow us away.

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  66. E.J. on September 8th, 2011 11:42 pm

    J. Cole gone be ah classic. Drake gone have ah pop album. So in my mind no compition. Rap>Pop

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  67. Sean Pollock on September 10th, 2011 8:24 pm

    COLE WORLD, NO DISCUSSION

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  68. Chris Crawford on September 12th, 2011 3:49 pm

    Because of Drake’s past, I am just the hugest Drake fan. His story (not the acting on Degrassi part) is just so relatable to mine that I made him my hero and idol when I heard it. He’s made tremendous strides since his days of being Jimmy and he’s learned a lot since Room For Improvement. I love the man cuz his lyrics, while not the deepest are still very impressive and speak a trueness that we all can relate to on a basic level, always keep me interested and he represents that people like me can do anything in this world if we try n work hard enough.

    J.Cole…..I don’t have much to say about him since I really don’t listen to his music so I won’t make a long comment. The way his buzz seems to me, I think his career (starting with this album coming out) will go one of two ways: 1) With his 1st album being a success he will officially join the ranks of the “spotlight artists” as I call them and he’ll have twice as much buzz and anticipation for his sophomore album. 2) Because of his style n lyricism, the mainstream world may not latch onto him and push him aside after this album and a couple of singles. This album will set the tone……so all I can really say is he better deliver like a mufucka with his shit. I’ma buy it just to see if he does.

    Now to address the issue of who’s album is going to be better: Take Care or Cole World. Because of my fandom and lack of listening to J.Cole I would naturally say Take Care but I want to put out some doubts on both album and illuminate some good points brought up by other people regarding boy albums to leave my decision as fair and unbiased as possible:
    Thank Me Later wasn’t amazing, even I’ll admit that, BUT that was Drake’s plan from the beginning: “I’m jus tryna pace it so that I’m always chasin it” from the 1st verse off the 1st song of the album, Fireworks. He knows his time is in a sense limited because of his topic content and style, he’s well aware that he many not last forever so he’s really trying to take the attention he’s captured, and live up to it in parts and slowly, enjoying as much as he can. So in that sense TML did exactly what he wanted; kept our attention, didn’t impress us. So with that in mind, I don’t expect too much else from Take Care, a good album no doubt, but won’t be to the typical “Drake Standard” as we’ve seen from RFI, CS and SFG. Especially looking at the singles he’s had out from the album already; Trust Issues, Marvin’s Room, Dreams Money Can Buy, and Headlines, I suspect this album to be primarily focused on his life accepting the fame he’s entered into and what it’s like living in it. And even though this is going to be a good album, I fear that Drake is sort of declining. The first time I heard Marvin’s Room and Dreams Money Can Buy I was terrified this was the new Drake, seriously a fall off from his mix tape prowess. The rest of the songs pretty much followed suit and it worried me that we’d never get the same Drake again. Buy stepping back I think this may be temporary because of his current status and we may need to wait a few years before he does a 180 of some sorts n starts really showing us what he can do and living up to the pedestal we put him on originally.
    So Take Care will be decent, prolly not great, but listen-worthy and good enough to keep on the iPod.
    Flipping over to Cole World, I think that because of the amount of meaning behind this debut album, it is way more potent than Take Care. So Cole wins there. But now to get down to the actual content of the album; all his fans are pumped for it to be released, and hoping on the wagon late, so am I..but that doesn’t say anything about how the album will perform nor what it will contain. Because of the type of content Cole puts in his songs, I feel like his topics are limited and eventually we’ll no longer find that “shock value” in his music, still good, just not shocking and people will lose interest. Maybe his producing will add another element to the equation but as people are commenting his beats don’t seem to be topic of the year. So in the end, I feel he and Drake are kind of in the same boat of limited time, just in two different parts of the river.
    To conclude it: Take Care < Cole World

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  69. squeeze on November 8th, 2011 8:13 am

    COLE WORLD > TAKE CARE
    i have now heard both

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